Dec 24, 2016 In March of 2014, two Dutch women, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon went to Panama for a vacation, of which they rewarded themselves from graduating and working months prior to save up for the trip. Reaching Panama, they soon headed for the town of Boquete and was being hosted by a family.
In March of 2014, two Dutch women, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon went to Panama for a vacation, of which they rewarded themselves from graduating and working months prior to save up for the trip. Reaching Panama, they soon headed for the town of Boquete and was being hosted by a family.Shortly after on April 1st, 2014, Kris and Lisanne vanished as they were hiking trails in the forest around the town of Boquete, which was also near to the Baru Volcano, which was strange in and of itself because they scheduled for a tour guide by the name of Feliciano to assist them on the trails for April 2nd.Nevertheless, the two women made their way for the trails and was accompanied by a dog named 'Blue' that belonged to the hosts' family. When Blue arrived back home later that evening without the girls, the family became concerned and tried contacting the mother of Lisanne Froon, who then proceeded to try to make contact with her daughter, but of no avail.The following day on April 2nd, Feliciano was waiting for Kris and Lisanne to show up for their hike, but they never arrived.
Confused, Feliciano went to the host family the ladies were staying at, but they weren't there as well. In fact, most of their belongings were still there prior to their disappearances, but the two women did have their cell phones on them.Panic began to seep in with everybody, so the police were contacted and an extensive search began, not just from locales and farmers, but detectives, search dogs, helicopter top down views, and more. The search lasted for ten days, yet no trace of Kris and Lisanne were found.Two months pass by and a local found a backpack belonging to one of the women. To everyone's shock and horror, skeletal remains were also discovered and after DNA testing, it was shown to be a match for both women.However, the story doesn't end there. While continuing the investigation, cell-phone logs were released.
The two women were trying to make 911 phone calls throughout this stretch of 10 days. Although believed to be a possible accident of getting lost and injured in the forest which therefore resulted in succumbing to the elements, strange discoveries were unearthed.Inside one of the backpacks there was a camera with 100 photos stored on the memory; taken within those 10 days of their vanishing. Most of these photos were of normality. Two young women who were having fun, enjoying life, their vacation, and simply documenting a moment of their life.The police were also able to take the pictures that the women took and match it up with their calls to 911.
You can find those pictures here.It now starts to become stranger. 10/100 pictures were taken within in the 10 days. The other 90 were taken afterwards around 1-4 in the morning, in complete darkness. It is believed that these pictures were merely taken with the 'flash' button in order to get some form of visual at night, but it's not confirmed.As mentioned earlier, the skeletal remains that had DNA testing confirming it was the two women was also bizarre. There was a hiking shoe that still had a foot inside which belonged to Kris Kremers.
Also found was a pelvic bone that belonged to Lisanne Froon.As of right now, the police are in the state of mind that the two women went off the beaten path of the trail and one of them was injured. Then, the other woman was trying to provide help and became injured herself in the process, which then lead to starvation and dehydration.Personally, I do believe they simply got lost, injured, and unfortunately succumbed to the elements. It's terrifying to think that for however long they did survive, it was all documented by a camera. However, with the remains being found (not all of them, I believe) such as the shoe that still contained a foot, but not the rest, it is scary.
More than likely animals cleaned up the rest. Nevertheless, it's still not considered a 'solved' case. It pretty much is solved.
If you go to the of that daily beast article, it shows a lot of images that I didn't see in the consolidated article. It also contains information they created or that was released after the investigation was completed.And those images really help put the information in context.The place where the emergency marker (the strange twigs and plastic construction) was found has been identified.The photo which shows it has been enhanced, and with the location it's meaning becomes plain. One of the girls (most likely Kris) fell going across a 'monkey bridge'.The other girl was on the far side. Each are represented by a piece of red plastic, and the twigs show the layout of the bridge and the riverbank.
A monkey bridge is a wire strung across a gap, with two more wires strung above it. You hold the two wires in your hands and move your feet along the single one.is the one they fell from. Keep in mind that the rescuers reached that area during the dry season. The 'night photos' sequence showed that it was raining. It would be very different in the dark, with a raging torrent.As to the second question. There's no evidence that Lisanne was injured. She died, yes.
But that doesn't mean she died violently. You could speculate endlessly about her fate.As for it being Kris who was injured and then Lisanne was left on her own. That also fits with other evidence.
Kris' iPhone was turned on after several days of inactivity, without anyone entering the PIN. This is because Kris was dead, and Lisanne was on her own and didn't know the PIN to access it. Wow that bridge seems incredibly dangerous! I can't believe it's even legal. I can see how one or both of the girls fell off.
Good point about Kris' iPhone and the PIN number. Makes sense if Lisanne turned it on and didn't know the pin. You can still make a 911 call though. That's the other thing I am unclear on. They tried calling 911 or that countries version of 911 and it wasn't connecting? Was that because of lack of service? I always heard that if u call 911 and have no service your phone will try to find any service towers even if it's a different cell provider.
It doesn't help that they were trying to cross that bridge after nightfall.They couldn't get any signal at all. They tried both 112 (the Netherlands number) and 911, over the course of several days, and weren't able to establish any connection.Panama uses 103 for fire, and they use 104 for police. But they also use 911 as a general emergency number so if the women had been able to get a signal then 911 would have gotten them some help.I've also heard that any cell phone, regardless of carrier, will connect to any available network for an emergency call. But thankfully I've never had to test it.
It's such a sad story, but I don't think there's any real mystery here. I love the outdoors and did a fair amount of long-distance hiking in my younger days. I still camp and hike a lot. You can never forget that nature does not care about you at all. You are totally insignificant and powerless when nature turns on you.
One tiny misstep can lead to death. That's part of why I love it so much, and I think that's what motivates a lot of outdoor athletes (like the people who climb Everest and K2).
If you survive, you've proven something to yourself.The thing is, people who are going out for a casual day hike don't tend to have that mindset. You pack what you think is enough water to last a few hours, maybe some snacks, maybe a first aid kit. And usually that's okay.but nature doesn't care whether you live or die, and all it takes is that one tiny misstep.
I hiked part of the AT after college and would routinely see people who were obviously under-prepared, usually on weekends.I definitely have a 'there but for the grace of God go I' reaction to what happened to these ladies. The fact that Lisanne managed to survive as long as she did is very impressive; I don't know if I could do it. There's one thing that I believe that most people have gotten wrong about the pictures.That picture is not looking down, it's looking up. It was taken looking up a rock wall, with a bunch of vegetation above.If you look at the leaves, it sure looks like it's the undersides. And plants don't grow on the undersides of overhangs, they grow on top of ledges. Almost everything is growing on a ledge in the picture.That of course means that the picture can't be of someone laying at the bottom. But I think that was already dismissed.I don't think this helps with the mystery of what happened that much, except to show they were down low.
Maybe it was taken after a fall. Pure speculation on my part.(Sorry if did not follow reddit etiquette well - this is my first post). I think in situations like this, it's not the 'Why' that frustrates people so much as 'What Were They Thinking?' It seems obvious that they died due to exposure, but the events leading up to their disappearance will haunt people forever. Why did they decide to hike this trail the day before they were set to have a guide? Why did they go off the trail, when they obviously knew the dangers?
![Lisanne Lisanne](http://www.allmystery.de/i/td395c0af7_Boots_zps8e162afb.jpg)
Why didn't the uninjured girl leave with the dog to get help, or why didn't they keep the dog with them? What were their last moments like? Why didn't they record themselves, if something had happened?
Were the flash photos to alert someone, and if so, why are they mostly pointed at the ground? Or were they to scare away animals, or find their bearings? How did they survive for 10+ days in the search area but were not found? What animal scattered their bones - a scavenger, or a predator?We'll never know, but I believe it's a solved case, regardless.
Yes, I agree. I think my reply is being misunderstood.I was saying that the case is solved; it's not any kind of mystery, or a 'what really happened' scenario. But what keeps it alive and continuously appearing in this subreddit is the psychology behind it, wondering why the girls made the choices they did, or what their last moments were like for them, even if we know the objective facts.
People will play the 'why didn't they.' Or 'what if.' Scenario in this case for a very long time, because psychology is fascinating and never absolute.
It's similar to Elisa Lam, or even Maura Murray to an extent. Sometimes the last moments are more morbidly interesting than the What Happened To Them, which can seem quite obvious. This might sound strange but I think the Stephen King book The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon actually demonstrates the psychology of how easy it is to get really lost very well. She goes off the path to pee. It's just past a fork, so she decides to walk back in a different direction than doing a 180 degree turn.
Boom, now she's walking deeper into the forest. There's actually very few supernatural elements in that book, in fact you can interpret it in a way that there are none and the horror just comes from her getting lost and trying to survive. It was raining, which limits the ability of a flash to cover any distance. The flash just lights up the raindrops instead.It's entirely likely that Lisanne was attempting to document Kris' location at that time. Independent experts who reviewed the entire series of photographs concluded:“The photos look to be made to mark the place where she left her friend, in case Lisanne had to find her way back there again,” he says, “or in case someone else found the camera.”Trust me, even if you think you know the entire story, go. I suggest you read all three parts, but at the very least read the third part that I just linked.Pretend like you've never heard of the case, read the entire thing, and then go back through and see if there are parts you disagree with or questions that you have.Literally every other news report prior to this was written with incomplete information.
This was the first time that someone had access to the entirety of the photographs, and was able to subje.